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no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq in kuwait, you know, defending our country. i own a gun. this really isn't about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congresses' first hearing since the shooting in newtown. mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that day that would be alive today. >> reporter: as the nra's executive director, wayne lapierre is the defender of gun rights. his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do w
no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq in kuwait, you know, defending our country. i own a gun. this really isn't about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congresses' first hearing since the shooting in newtown. mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and...
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do we have the result -- resolve as a people, as a country, as a government, to finally put this behind us? i believe that we do. [applause] i believe that we do. [applause] i believe we are finally at the moment where comprehensive immigration reform is within our grasp. but i promise you this, the closer we get, the more emotional this debate will become. immigration has always been an issue that inflames passions. that is not surprising. there are few things that are more important to us as a society than who gets to come here and call our country home. who gets the privilege of becoming a citizen of the united states of america. that is a big deal. when we talk about that in the abstract, it is easy sometimes for the discussion to take on a feeling of loss versus them. and when that happens a lot of folks forget that most of us used to be them. we forget that. it is really important for us to remember our history. unless you are one of the first americans, native american, you came from someplace else. somebody brought you. insellas are -- ken salizasar points out his family has bee
do we have the result -- resolve as a people, as a country, as a government, to finally put this behind us? i believe that we do. [applause] i believe that we do. [applause] i believe we are finally at the moment where comprehensive immigration reform is within our grasp. but i promise you this, the closer we get, the more emotional this debate will become. immigration has always been an issue that inflames passions. that is not surprising. there are few things that are more important to us as...
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there's a difference between governing and campaigning, as we all know. and that's really, i think, the question. is how good of a candidate either of them would be on the trail at that point. >> on the record, jonathan collegio said they're both well qualified. >> doesn't sound like he wants to run against either of them. >> thank you, jonathan, thank you, margie. >> a program note for you, our own andrea mitchell will sit down with secretary of state clinton for an interview coming up tomorrow, 1:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. >>> also making news this morning, new details emerging as family members prepare for funerals of 231 people who died in sunday's nightclub fire in brazil. witnesses say there were no fire alarms, sprinklers, or even fire escapes. the club reportedly had only one exit. >>> meantime, police have temporarily arrested four people, including one of the owners of that nightclub. >>> in egypt, the army chief says the country could, quote, collapse if violence continues. at least 56 people are dead in the latest anti-government pr
there's a difference between governing and campaigning, as we all know. and that's really, i think, the question. is how good of a candidate either of them would be on the trail at that point. >> on the record, jonathan collegio said they're both well qualified. >> doesn't sound like he wants to run against either of them. >> thank you, jonathan, thank you, margie. >> a program note for you, our own andrea mitchell will sit down with secretary of state clinton for an...
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. >> according to government run news outlets, last week the iranian government launched a live monkey into launched a live monkey into space. there's been no independent confirmati confirmation which means it probably didn't happen. they released a photo, this is the alleged iranian space monkey. based on the photo, i'm guessing he didn't volunteer for the mission. and i'd like to see them hook the iranian space monkey with the ikea sweater monkey. wouldn't they make a great couple. they said he flew into space and came back alive and well and even threw him a parade when he got back. there's the space monkey. adorable when he banks his little sim balls together. very cute. >> good morning from los angeles, tuesday, january 29th. with us on set from new york, willie geist, mike barnicle, senior political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post," sam stein, former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner and in washington, washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay. so glad to have you with us this morning. willie geist, an
. >> according to government run news outlets, last week the iranian government launched a live monkey into launched a live monkey into space. there's been no independent confirmati confirmation which means it probably didn't happen. they released a photo, this is the alleged iranian space monkey. based on the photo, i'm guessing he didn't volunteer for the mission. and i'd like to see them hook the iranian space monkey with the ikea sweater monkey. wouldn't they make a great couple. they...
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he's paying over 60% of everything he earns to the government! because of that, he apologized for opening his mouth. would he have been better off packing his bags and moving to texas, moving out of the golden state to florida? art laugh service here, an economist is here and he wants a job advising him. >> i left 6 1/2 years ago and went to nashville, tennessee, and no act. >> brian: you wrote a book called eureka. >> it covers the how to fix california, which is not the way governor brown is doing it. >> brian: which is raising taxes and the people of california voted to do that. >> it's amazing what you can push off on people. half the world are idiots. the average guy is an idiot. in california it means half are below that. i don't know how they could possibly vote that in. you can't tax a state into prosperity. you just can't. governor brown has historically been good, but not now. >> brian: people that say, i don't make over a million dollars, let them pay more. it's okay to do that. >> they made it retroactive, too, which is incredible. th
he's paying over 60% of everything he earns to the government! because of that, he apologized for opening his mouth. would he have been better off packing his bags and moving to texas, moving out of the golden state to florida? art laugh service here, an economist is here and he wants a job advising him. >> i left 6 1/2 years ago and went to nashville, tennessee, and no act. >> brian: you wrote a book called eureka. >> it covers the how to fix california, which is not the way...
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we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put this in context and think about what congressman ryan from wisconsin is really saying. republicans backed off their debt limit threat because they knew it was a political loser. and now they seem to be backing off their threat to shut down the government. sequester? well, that's another matter. if congress does nothing, the cuts take effect. republicans don't want defense cuts, but they might be willing to stomach those cuts because domestic programs would also get slashed, including medicare. and that's what republicans really want. let's turn to barney frank, former massachusetts congressman, with us tonight here on "the ed show."
we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put this in context and think about what congressman ryan from wisconsin is really...
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. >> dana: government infringing on the private business. just because people don't have personal responsibility and boundaries. >> kimberly: we can't help it if we keep winning. what up, san francisco? >> bob: one more thing is next. ♪ ♪ test test. ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: time now for one more thing. so, if you are a fan of "the view," you might have been wondering where barbara walters was. here is whoopi goldberg to tell you what happened. >> now you all know that she fell and cut her head ten days ago and then was running a temperature. but it turns out it's all the result of like a delayed childhood thing. barbara ha has the chickenpox. yeah. apparently she never had it as a child. so now she is told to rest. she is not allowed any visitors and we're telling you, barbara no, scratching. >> kimberly: joey behar says that is what happens when you interview honey boo boo. barbara, get better soon. love that show. >> greg: wow! banned phrase. no holds barred. whenever anybody describes a writing or opinion as no holds barred it means they'
. >> dana: government infringing on the private business. just because people don't have personal responsibility and boundaries. >> kimberly: we can't help it if we keep winning. what up, san francisco? >> bob: one more thing is next. ♪ ♪ test test. ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: time now for one more thing. so, if you are a fan of "the view," you might have been wondering where barbara walters was. here is whoopi goldberg to tell you what happened. >> now you...
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we have to show that if given the chance, we can govern. that we have better ideas. >> president obama has said he hoped this re-election would break that republican fever of total opposition, but in an interview with "the new republic" interview, brand new magazine, he said obviously that hasn't happened yet. joining me is columnist cynthia tucker and "the washington post's" eugene robinson. i want to start with gene up here. it seems to me they have this new sort of gee, whiz, we're getting beat up, but they were the party that for four years shut the door on a new president. he won the election -- >> and said, you know, our number one goal is to make him a one-term president, and they said, no, no, no. they said no to measures they had proposed in the past, but as long as he proposed them, they said no. to turn around and then say, oh, he's hitting us, he's beating us up, it's kind of silly, and i don't know -- are they just trying to rally the troops -- >> wasn't this the macho party a couple weeks ago, and they're now becoming the -- >
we have to show that if given the chance, we can govern. that we have better ideas. >> president obama has said he hoped this re-election would break that republican fever of total opposition, but in an interview with "the new republic" interview, brand new magazine, he said obviously that hasn't happened yet. joining me is columnist cynthia tucker and "the washington post's" eugene robinson. i want to start with gene up here. it seems to me they have this new sort of...
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andrew meehan conducts government relations. he has testified on a number of panels and a fourth of several state legislators. then we had jennifer l. cullen. in 2007, she was appointed director of vermont motor vehicles. she has held a number of positions, culminating in her appointment as director. working in such capacities as a support specialist at the inception of her career, she moved on to become an administrative officer. in 1997, jennifer worked in the capacity of financial program analyst at the apartment of national resources and environmental control. the 1998-2002, she was program manager for the clean water program at that department. a 2002, -- by 2002, she was provided the opportunity to work as senior legislative analyst for that department of comptroller general in vermont. she graduated from wilmington university with the d.a. in -- a ba in management. last is gloria rectanus, an assistant director of government accountability office. having received a b.a. in political science from west virginia university a
andrew meehan conducts government relations. he has testified on a number of panels and a fourth of several state legislators. then we had jennifer l. cullen. in 2007, she was appointed director of vermont motor vehicles. she has held a number of positions, culminating in her appointment as director. working in such capacities as a support specialist at the inception of her career, she moved on to become an administrative officer. in 1997, jennifer worked in the capacity of financial program...
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you get the government you vote for, that you deserve and this is the government you have. if you oppose the republicans in the senate for reaching this agreement, your recourse is to replace those members. host: going back to your comments about the president paused use of drones and how he fights the war on terror -- guest: every president has said he is facing problems that his predecessors did not have to face and that is why he is asking for more power. three people have to be highly skeptical of that. drones an important technology. they are not so vastly different nor is the war on terror so vastly different as to excuse the creation of an imperial presidency. this president, at least his administration, has said they will reserve the right to do drone strikes in countries that are posed to them. the american people dismiss the concerns are countries that raise his objections. we can debate whether pakistan is probably saying they want grown attacks but publicly they have denounced them. these are acts of war under any definition. we cannot believe that, as a country
you get the government you vote for, that you deserve and this is the government you have. if you oppose the republicans in the senate for reaching this agreement, your recourse is to replace those members. host: going back to your comments about the president paused use of drones and how he fights the war on terror -- guest: every president has said he is facing problems that his predecessors did not have to face and that is why he is asking for more power. three people have to be highly...
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change the government. no sign of the president heeding those demands and no sign of these two sides talking. wolf. >> joining us now, the british foreign secretary william hague. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about the arab spring. egypt, libya, tunisia, all of north africa, throughout the midwes middle east. it looks like potentially it's turning out to be a nightmare. is it? >> i think it's never been the work of a couple of years. clearly, it's the work of a generation, change in the arab world. countries that don't have a particular model to follow, you know, there is no -- it's not like the end of communism in europe where eastern european countries knew they wanted to be like western european countries. these countries have to find their own model of democracy. >> looking back, was it a mistake to dump mubarak? >> the egyptian people dumped mubarak? but a lot of the european countries said it was time for him to go. >> well, in the face of revolution in egypt. none of these countries, c
change the government. no sign of the president heeding those demands and no sign of these two sides talking. wolf. >> joining us now, the british foreign secretary william hague. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about the arab spring. egypt, libya, tunisia, all of north africa, throughout the midwes middle east. it looks like potentially it's turning out to be a nightmare. is it? >> i think it's never been the work of a couple of years. clearly, it's the work of a...
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how does the government gauge that? what can be said in order to make that a reality? guaranteeing drones a fence? something of that issue i think will really be something to focus on moving forward. >> all right. luke always a pleasure. serious luke today, huh? joining us now is republican marsha blackburn who prefers to be called congressman. how are you today, congressman? >> i'm well. i'm well. >> so we have a four-page proposal that republicans are behind or some republicans on the hill are behind. are you on board with the proposal? >> i'm one of those republicans that is -- i'm going to be waiting to see what the details are and bear in mind also we have had a working group in the house and they will probably bring their proposals out next week or so and i'm looking forward to hearing what they have to say. there are many of us that have said for years this needs to be fixed. we want to make certain there's no preferential treatment. want to make certain that people are in the queue, have the opportunity to complete their process so let's see what continues to c
how does the government gauge that? what can be said in order to make that a reality? guaranteeing drones a fence? something of that issue i think will really be something to focus on moving forward. >> all right. luke always a pleasure. serious luke today, huh? joining us now is republican marsha blackburn who prefers to be called congressman. how are you today, congressman? >> i'm well. i'm well. >> so we have a four-page proposal that republicans are behind or some...
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if i have millions of peoples in the shadows without coming forth and registering with the government, i don't know what their ultimate purpose is here. so, when we talk about the nation's security, reform is necessary for security. as it is for the elements of our principles as it relates to enhancing what we have lalready done. when i talk about the nation's economy, reform is critical to the nation's economy. the reality is that even in a very tight economy, there are all types of industries in our country which have used the work of immigrants every day to achieve the economic goals of those industries. if you got up this morning and had fruits for breakfast, it was probably picked by the bept back of aim grant worker. if you, in fact, had vegetables for a chicken for lunch you probably had it deplucked by the hands, the cut up hands of an immigrant worker. if you slept in a hotel or motel of the nation, you probably had your room done by an immigrant worker. if you are looking at some of the cutting edge technologies in our country, you probably saw the ability of making america
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nation, we must quarantine our children immediately. [ laughter ] the government must put up buildings to sequester them. we'll group them by age, and keep them there during high activity hours, say from 8:00 to 3:00. [ laughter ] bus them if we have to! [ laughter ] but locking up your kids to avoid the flu doesn't mean you're safe. >> a new strain of a virus is quickly spreading across several countries including the united states where folks are calling it: the winter vomiting bug. >> stephen: yes, the winter vomiting bug! far worse than the spring vomiting bug, which at least gets you in shape for bikini season. [ laughter ] that's affecting scores of americans come from? jolly old england! hmm, who do we know from england who was recently vomiting? >> her royal highness is expected to stay in hospital for several days. now we learn, the duchess of cambridge is hospitalized for severe vomiting. >> stephen: threat number 4: kate middleton! [ laughter ] she's princess zero! typhoid queen mary! her royal hurl-ness! [ laughter ] thanks to kate, this winter vomiting bug could become a g
nation, we must quarantine our children immediately. [ laughter ] the government must put up buildings to sequester them. we'll group them by age, and keep them there during high activity hours, say from 8:00 to 3:00. [ laughter ] bus them if we have to! [ laughter ] but locking up your kids to avoid the flu doesn't mean you're safe. >> a new strain of a virus is quickly spreading across several countries including the united states where folks are calling it: the winter vomiting bug....
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. >> real quickly let's show everybody the federal government new cnn/orc poll. the question being should the federal government develop a plan for undocumented immigrants to become legal residents? 53% say yes. then we have this. this is really interesting, victoria. because this bipartisan group of senators coming out today almost stealing the thunder from the president's first big policy speech coming tomorrow in las vegas. there is the immigration 8 right there. marco rubio a part of that immigration 8. and he wrote a las vegas review op-ed saying my hope is president obama will use his voice and influence to further this approach. however, if what he offers is a process for the undocumented that is more lenient, faster and unfair to those waiting to come legally, it won't bode well for reform. didn't use the word amnesty but that's what he's talking about. >> you know what other word he didn't use, thomas? illegal. so he intended to talk about illegal immigrants, illegal immigration. and we've seen a change in the rhetoric of how marco rubio is talking about
. >> real quickly let's show everybody the federal government new cnn/orc poll. the question being should the federal government develop a plan for undocumented immigrants to become legal residents? 53% say yes. then we have this. this is really interesting, victoria. because this bipartisan group of senators coming out today almost stealing the thunder from the president's first big policy speech coming tomorrow in las vegas. there is the immigration 8 right there. marco rubio a part of...
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they were willing to shut down the government. that's not really the kind of thing that -- that speaks to a new direction for this party. >> john, we're talking about immigration reform, right, today. is this the pivot point. is this where you might see republicans come together with democrats? >> it could be. i do think, though, i've seen this before where the senate come up with a plan without any input from the house. and then the house decides not to do it. >> right. >> i think this is the problem. that you've got to have cooperation. i do think there are some ways you can make it easier for people to get citizenship without actually getting into amnesty. and i think that finding that trick is going to be difficult but can be achieved. i do think that for republicans, it makes a lot of sense strategically to get immigration passed. if we're going to have a good conversation with hispanic voters, we can't do it in the context of holding up immigration reform. it also has a real big impact on asian voters. i think people from as
they were willing to shut down the government. that's not really the kind of thing that -- that speaks to a new direction for this party. >> john, we're talking about immigration reform, right, today. is this the pivot point. is this where you might see republicans come together with democrats? >> it could be. i do think, though, i've seen this before where the senate come up with a plan without any input from the house. and then the house decides not to do it. >> right....
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n airlines asked the tokyo government to cut back mandatory inspections while the dreamliner was being built. japan said it did not compromise its safety standards. >>> 7:17. a public hearing that was scheduled today on the future of pete's harbor in redwood city has been postponed. the city canceled it after both the developer around the save pete's harbor group asked for a delay. the california state's land collision is expected to clarify at its -- commission is expected to clarify at its meeting in april whether the lease can be transferred to the developer. without the lease, the development deal could fall through. >>> once again, toyota is the top-selling carmaker. this morning they announced they told 3.25 million vehicles around the world in 2012. that's a toyota record and up nearly 23% from 2011 when the production was slowed by the earthquake and tsunami. >>> you may have noticed gas prices around the country are inching up again. the national price for a gallon of regular is $3.35. as usual here in the bay area, of course, prices are about 30 cents higher. san francisco ha
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government forces backed by the french have taken control of two key cities. elizabeth palmer is in mali this morning. relinquish french and malian troops have surrounded the legendary city of timbuktu. they're waiting for forces to clear inside so they can roll in. this follows more than a week of air strikes, and it does mean that two of the most important cities in mali's north are now back in french and government hands. the other one, gao, fell over the weekend and as has been the case, whenever the government troops have rolled through towns that have been liberated, the local people have lined the streets and welcomed them. the islamists do appear by and large, to be melting away rather than standing and fighting. the french foreign minister is warning this morning they may be planning to regroup and return. certainly, the challenge of securing this area for the french with the help of the armies of various neighboring african countries is enormous. it's a great big area of desert, almost twice the size of texas. for "cbs this morning," elizabeth palmer
government forces backed by the french have taken control of two key cities. elizabeth palmer is in mali this morning. relinquish french and malian troops have surrounded the legendary city of timbuktu. they're waiting for forces to clear inside so they can roll in. this follows more than a week of air strikes, and it does mean that two of the most important cities in mali's north are now back in french and government hands. the other one, gao, fell over the weekend and as has been the case,...
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you said that officials high in the government authorized them. you also said they worked. in fact, in 2007, you told msnbc you were coming forward then because you thought that the agency had gotten, quote, a bum rap on waterboarding. that's someone who is defending these practices not -- >> yes, i did defend them. because i was relying on what officers told me in the building, these methods were effective. that turned out to be a lie. >> fair enough. how does that make you a whistleblower? >> in that first interview in 2007 i said it was torture and it was official u.s. government policy. >> if your purpose was to blow the whistle by talking to these reporters -- you admitted not just to the leaking of one name but you also acknowledge giving classified information to yet a second reporter. did you ask these journalists, hey, what are you going to do with this information? >> let me correct you on one thing. this is something that the prosecution has been saying from the very beginning. they actually charged me with espionage for, quote, unquote, leaking a namative former
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took a long, planned trip to visit turkey and government officials in the u.s. and abroad are now getting involved in her disappearance the family is not waiting about this. they're going overseas to look for her. david lee miller is live in the new york city newsroom with the latest. what do we know about this. >> reporter: she was supposed to return to the united states exactly one year ago today from a vacation in turkey. as you just heard she never arrived. relatives say the staten island, new york, woman was planning to take the trip with a friend who canceled. she was going to take the trip alone and her husband went to turkey to try to find her. before leaving he described the anguish of the last few days. >> don't have appetite. you can't sleep. you wake up crying. your mind is all over the place. even still though, despite all that you, you have a hope, you know and you hold onto that hope. >> reporter: two sons, ages nine and 11 about been told, mommy missed her flight and daddy has gone to get her. her family says it is very unusual for her to disappe
took a long, planned trip to visit turkey and government officials in the u.s. and abroad are now getting involved in her disappearance the family is not waiting about this. they're going overseas to look for her. david lee miller is live in the new york city newsroom with the latest. what do we know about this. >> reporter: she was supposed to return to the united states exactly one year ago today from a vacation in turkey. as you just heard she never arrived. relatives say the staten...
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government agencies made headlines last year. and blackberry's executive rockers release this video to keep app developers on board. many called the effort cringe inducing. but all will be forgiven if the 10 catches on. >> delayed numerous times because i believe rim really wants to get this right. >> reporter: the 10 is getting high marks for innovative touch screen. >> it's quite thin. it looks a lot like the iphone with a bigger screen. and it's very fast. >> reporter: the first models won't come with blackberry's beloved keyboard, but never f r fear, rim says more than 1600 corporate customers are ready to give the 10 a shot. and the top four u.s. phone carriers are signed on to provide service. that gives the 10 a leg up compared to microsoft's new lineup of windows phones. it remains to be seen whether blackberry can become a crucial third player behind apple and android. but without the success of the 10, some say the very future of the rim is in question. one thing is certain -- >> it was a deal breaker. >> reporter: -- w
government agencies made headlines last year. and blackberry's executive rockers release this video to keep app developers on board. many called the effort cringe inducing. but all will be forgiven if the 10 catches on. >> delayed numerous times because i believe rim really wants to get this right. >> reporter: the 10 is getting high marks for innovative touch screen. >> it's quite thin. it looks a lot like the iphone with a bigger screen. and it's very fast. >>...
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you can't call it a government plan. you can't call it government option. >> john: the citizens choice. saying that a public option would hurt public healthcare is like saying community college hurts the ivy league. the post office has destroyed u.p.s. and fedex. it doesn't work that way. >> no. really good example of that kind of competition. >> i was going to say -- >> we'll let jim get a word in. >> why would we do that? >> look at all of the countries who have opted nor the american system of healthcare. there's -- uh. der -- >> you know how the hannityless of the world say we have the best healthcare system in the world. >> john: no one's disputing the quality of our care or our doctors. it is access. it is the access to that care. that's where we have true inequality in america. gwen is on the phone from north carolina about the real republicans. gwen, are you still with us? >> caller: i sure am. >> john: good morning. >> caller: good morning. i don't know if i'm nervous or just pissed off. i think that someone nee
you can't call it a government plan. you can't call it government option. >> john: the citizens choice. saying that a public option would hurt public healthcare is like saying community college hurts the ivy league. the post office has destroyed u.p.s. and fedex. it doesn't work that way. >> no. really good example of that kind of competition. >> i was going to say -- >> we'll let jim get a word in. >> why would we do that? >> look at all of the countries who...
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former competitors who figured out how to put whatever difference these had aside and learn how to govern, move on, and take the country forward. that's a lesson i wish many colleagues in congress would learn. >> hillary talked about the people who are often most sensitive after time are the spouses and the staff members. a little bit about what the president said about the staffers. >> hillary mentioned part of our bond is we have been through a lot of the same stuff. and part of being through the same stuff is getting whacked around in political campaigns, being criticized in the press, you know, we've both built some pretty thick skins. >> um-hum. um-hum. >> sometimes our staffs don't go through that, so they are taking umbrage and offense. >> have you seen the staff able to move past the slights and hurts or move past the umbrage? >> i have seen it a lot. if you you are an elected official, you develop a thick skin. but the staffers and families, they take it very personally. >> like, really, who on the staff has had a hard time. i want to talk specifically. >> if you are a staffer, y
former competitors who figured out how to put whatever difference these had aside and learn how to govern, move on, and take the country forward. that's a lesson i wish many colleagues in congress would learn. >> hillary talked about the people who are often most sensitive after time are the spouses and the staff members. a little bit about what the president said about the staffers. >> hillary mentioned part of our bond is we have been through a lot of the same stuff. and part of...